So are you regretting upgrading to 10.5.2 as much as I am?
I’ve had 10.5.2 on my Macbook Pro for about 48 hours now, and they have been nothing short of miserable. On four separate occasions now the computer has frozen for no reason, and I’ve had to do a hard restart to get it going again.
My Samson Q1U USB Microphone now no longer works in Garageband for some reason. Now it sounds like someone is crumpling tinfoil everytime I speak into it. The mic works fine in Audacity, but each time I attempt to use the mic the computer freezes up after a minute or two of recording.
On top of all of the Safari is still crashing like crazy if I have more than 3 tabs open at once.
So…needless to say…I’m not happy.
How about you? Any problems since the upgrade?
Comments
Eric M
February 13th, 2008 at 8:25 am
My upgrades (2 Intel iMacs, a MBP, and a Dual G5) all went fine. I’ve had no problems.
I’ve never had a particular problem with safari crashing. It’s not uncommon for me to have literally >100 tabs open between various windows.
Chaz Mangus
February 13th, 2008 at 8:32 am
i have upgraded about 8 of my computers. iMacs, MacPros, MacBooks, and xServes i have yet to have a problem with anything.
BruceC
February 13th, 2008 at 8:41 am
I’ve updated 2 of my 5 Macs to 10.5.2 and my main machine, a dual 2.7GHz G5, has had nothing but trouble.
I “did the right thing” and downloaded the combo updater and applied it. When I rebooted things seemed to work for about 5 seconds then the machine started freezing and various applications crashed. It took me 4 or 5 reboots to figure out that Linotype Fontexplorer and 10.5.2 is a bad mix. If you have it TURN IT OFF!!! It will cause lots of problems.
Even after I figured out that Linotype was causing some issues I still have sluggish performance at times and strange anomalous behavior including crashes of various applications. I’m still trying to troubleshoot them and tracking down all the error reports via the console.
I sure hope your experience is better than mine.
Michael Heinz
February 13th, 2008 at 9:06 am
I upgraded the 4 machines in my house, two MacBooks and two G4 laptops, with no problems.
Eric
February 13th, 2008 at 9:08 am
Yeah, so far I have had no problems yet.
spike1911
February 13th, 2008 at 9:11 am
i had updated yesterday night on my MBP (while being offside in the hotel).
All went fine, except for one nasty bug with Mail.app and non ASCII foldernames (i am german…).
then i installed Aperture 2 (iPhoto got incredibly slow with my 24000+ picture collection.
Now GarageSale is dead (doesn’t even start up).
Otherwise the system is fine.
I will update the 2 other macs @home (iMac 17″ and MacBook) on the weekend.
Roy
February 13th, 2008 at 9:34 am
My G4 Cube upgraded to 1.2 had Wi-Fi range cut to 1/3. Other reported the same. No more PS 7.0., so I back graded to 10.4.11 and Wi-fi back ok.
I think the G4 will stay at 10.4.11.
Roy
Casper Idsinga
February 13th, 2008 at 9:37 am
No problems here, update is working fine, Safari crashes sometimes but this was already the case with 10.5.1. I think the Adobe flash plug-in is buggy…
Intel iMac and MacBook Pro.
Rikk
February 13th, 2008 at 9:40 am
MBP 2.33 Duo, 3 GB, 250 GB: After doing the usual pre-update preps: running YASU along with a second restart, everything seems fine. No problems with Safari. Just out of interest did you do a thorough maintenance before updating? Cheers.
Pegasus
February 13th, 2008 at 9:44 am
I had Safari crashing within 2 minutes every time I loaded it. Deleted the .plist files with no changes. Finally deleted AdBlock and no more issues
Andrew
February 13th, 2008 at 9:52 am
The 10.5.2/graphics update 1.0 fixed an issue where under 10.5.1, after waking from sleep, my G4 iMac’s LCD went nuts, forcing me to reboot. Now the machine goes to sleep and wakes up with a working screen, but it causes the system icons in the menu bar to hang. Beach ball of death. My solution has been to alter the energy saver settings in System Preferences so that the machine never goes to sleep, but the display still does. I haven’t had this problem with any version of Leopard(so far), on my G4 Mac mini, or the Safari crashes(because I use Camino), but I certainly hope that Apple recognizes and fixes this issue quickly.
Michael Heinz
February 13th, 2008 at 9:55 am
For the guy who reported problems with Font Explorer - apparently there’s an update available:
http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?story=20080211193743619
Fred
February 13th, 2008 at 9:55 am
It kills Realbasic 5.5.5. Can’t edit function header information.
max
February 13th, 2008 at 10:05 am
Good upgrade experience for me on a Quad G5 and a MacBook Pro. I’m happy.
V Silly
February 13th, 2008 at 10:21 am
No problems whatsoever here. It sounds like you have a problem above and beyond the update. Maybe time for an archive and install?
Good Luck!!
V
Michael
February 13th, 2008 at 10:32 am
@VSilly
that might be true if I’d been having any problems at all prior to the update. I’m open to the idea that it may be something else, but it happened immediately after the update - I’m not ready to archive and install just yet.
Mathue Taxion
February 13th, 2008 at 10:34 am
Mostly good from my machines, a mix of PPCs and Intels, both laptop and desktop. Two issues remain on the desktops that are related to sleep. One machine will not even turn off it’s monitors, odds are it’s a wacom issue since shutting off the Cinque 21UX gets around the issue. Also just sleep in general, the machines will not do it on their own, you must select it from the menu for it to happen.
Alberto Crespo
February 13th, 2008 at 10:34 am
10.5.2 giving me trouble with my external FW drive have to turn drive off then on then it will work. why cant things just work the first time?
I guess im asking for to much.
Chris M
February 13th, 2008 at 10:41 am
No problems on either a Core Duo Macbook or a Core 2 Duo Macbook Pro.
Mark
February 13th, 2008 at 10:53 am
I had some issues with sluggish speed but I reset the PRAM and it is now running lightning fast!
WillGonz
February 13th, 2008 at 11:12 am
I have upgraded my MacBook Pro, Mac Mini and Macbooks. Everything went fine.
I would think you could back rev via TimeMachine.
Boot from the Leopard install dvd.
Pick the menu for the TimeMachine restore.
Choose to restore the day before you did Leopard.
Let it do it’s thing.
Once you get back in restore your Docs.
Curtis Stanford
February 13th, 2008 at 11:17 am
My experience was not horrible but Mail keeps crashing now and my weather dashboard widget is now invisible. I can add it but nothing appears.
dennyg
February 13th, 2008 at 11:25 am
No issues here on MacPro, MacBook Pro or MacBook Air. With Safari, I commonly run with 50-60 tabs open. Again, no issues.
Paul Greatbatch
February 13th, 2008 at 11:36 am
No problems here.
Drew
February 13th, 2008 at 11:38 am
Yeah, my new iMac froze up last night after I updated, and when I rebooted, it just sat at the blank grey screen at the beginning. I finally unplugged everything except the power cord and keyboard, and it rebooted fine.
I think I’ll hold off on updating my MacBook for a while.
Wylie
February 13th, 2008 at 11:38 am
I updated on my Mini and MacBook.
Both machines stopped recognizing the hard drive connected to my AirPort I used for Time Machine.
Rudi
February 13th, 2008 at 11:45 am
Clean as a rubber ducky, so far…
CJ
February 13th, 2008 at 11:54 am
No problems on upgrades to a MBP, G4 Mini and a MP Quad. Rock solid in all cases.
Adam Nelson
February 13th, 2008 at 11:58 am
No problems on my MacBook, iMac, and my Mac Mini. I have one tiny issue on my MBP, and it’s that the default “computer name & apple logo” screensaver shows up about 1 of 5 times that my regular screen saver turns on.
Richard
February 13th, 2008 at 12:14 pm
Three Macs here are good, two Intel iMacs and an iBook.
niclet
February 13th, 2008 at 12:17 pm
Hi Michael,
For your mic problem try this :
Plug the mic
Open Audio/MIDI Setup (in Utility folder)
In the Audio tab, be sure that Audio input is set to “Line In”
Choose “Line In” in propriety drop down menu
—> (Source must show “Line In”) If Format is set to 44100,0 Hz change it to 48000,0 Hz
—> Then, change back the format to its initial value (441000,0 Hz)
This -sometimes- refresh the clock and solve the “crumpled tinfoil” sound.
Quit Audio/MIDI Setup
Open GarageBand and refresh the Audio value in its Preferences (Line In).
It should work (by experience, it is not only a 10.5.2 issue)
Hope this work
Scott
February 13th, 2008 at 12:19 pm
I’m seeing more stable and faster performance out of my 24″ iMac Intel C2D 2.4Mhz. My network performance has increased as well (Airport Extreme) - it was dog slow before the update, much faster now.
We are not noticing any drastic improvements (or problems) on my daughter’s 20″ iMac Intel CD 2.0MHz machine.
James
February 13th, 2008 at 12:59 pm
No problems on a first generation MacBook Pro. I used it for several hours last night. Mostly Safari with multiple tabs and never had an issue. One thing is that I normally keep Plug-ins off in Safari’s preferences to block flash-ads. I did watch a quicktime or flash movie (not sure which) though which means that Plug-ins were on briefly at least.
I used the Software Update install (180 MB). After I installed, my Apple blue-tooth mighty mouse was acting jittery but I just rebooted one more time and haven’t seen any problems.
AshD
February 13th, 2008 at 1:14 pm
Not a single problem at all on my one year old iMac. I don’t even remember when or if safari has ever crashed on this system.
L.V.
February 13th, 2008 at 1:14 pm
MacPro quad core here, no problems after upgrade to 10.5.2
b.
February 13th, 2008 at 1:33 pm
No problem at all. I (we all) love it!
J
February 13th, 2008 at 1:46 pm
No problems at all.
J
February 13th, 2008 at 1:48 pm
I forgot. I’m on a MacBookPro as well.
Hell's Donut House
February 13th, 2008 at 1:56 pm
No problems whatsoever on my 18-month-old MacBook Pro. In fact, everything has been running smoother and faster with far, far fewer spinning beachballs ever since upgrading to Leopard. Big thumbs up.
celticmac
February 13th, 2008 at 2:43 pm
I haven’t had any major problems on my 2006 15″ MBP CD, and I like the new features. However, 10.5.2 didn’t fix my problems with being unable to automatically connect to wifi networks, and after turning off the menu transparency, I noticed that a line of 1 or two pixels at the bottom of the menu bar (right side of screen) is cut off. My trackpad stopped responding for a few seconds yesterday too. The graphics update has been good so far, though, and as I said before, no major problems. I especially like the way stacks have been cleaned up. Dashboard is a lot smoother too, although I still get a few graphical glitches with the ripple effect, and I had to force the Dock to quit once because Dashboard stopped responding.
gregory
February 13th, 2008 at 3:47 pm
my intel imac actually crashed during the update. After a reboot, it wasn’t bad, but I haven’t really tried it out yet. Is it just me or did the start up on the computer’s change. I know it sounds crazy, but it feels like it takes longer, and there’s this weird blue blank screen that just hangs there for a few seconds that I never really noticed happening before. Maybe I’m just crazy…
Aria Rajasa
February 13th, 2008 at 4:15 pm
No problem here on Macbook
DocB
February 13th, 2008 at 4:18 pm
My first attempt at update of my G5 2×2GHz through Software Update failed with an invalid download. The combo update did the trick but then the G5 was taking up to 6 minutes to boot. The problem was that I did not have my Epson firewire scanner powered up at boot. The 10.5.2 IOKit appears to be far less tolerant of that then 10.5.1.
DWalla
February 13th, 2008 at 4:24 pm
No problems at all. We’ve updated a good dozen machines without incident.
Nick B
February 13th, 2008 at 4:26 pm
No real problems. Word 2008 seems super slow to launch, but then PowerPoint 2008 was very snappy, so maybe it is just Word being Word.
niclet
February 13th, 2008 at 4:46 pm
Ho! I forgot: No noticeable problem with my PowerBook 12″ G4 1.5GHz.
Thinks are more smooth and… snappy!
niclet
February 13th, 2008 at 4:56 pm
Mmm, I meant “things”.
James
February 13th, 2008 at 5:10 pm
It’s sad and scary. I’m a recent switcher and I experience different freezes and other problems I never had on my Windows machines. It even seems, that on a Mac things can go really bad much easier, than on Windows. Of course, I’m not switching back, but this is troubling… And I definitely can’t agree, that “Mac just works”. All computers suck! I’m so sick of it all.
Andrew
February 13th, 2008 at 5:41 pm
My update works with nothing out of the ordinary yet (MB 2.2). But, when I first updated on Monday, Fontbook did not properly add new fonts. To clarify, it would show that it is adding the font(s), but then when the loading is complete the fonts are not in the library. But that problem seems to have resolved itself.
Robert Pritchett
February 13th, 2008 at 6:47 pm
Saved files to external hard drive “just in case”. Ran update on my iMac G5. It installed, but then stayed with the cursor on the “blue screen” until I cut power and restarted, then it restarted twice by itself. Since then, things have been fine.
Ryszard
February 13th, 2008 at 7:24 pm
Absolutely no problems so far and a noticeable increase in speed. Not bad for a free upgrade!
Joe S.
February 13th, 2008 at 8:01 pm
No issues to speak of.
adam
February 13th, 2008 at 8:37 pm
I’ve had no problems with 10.5.2, my mac is much snappier now
although, i did cleanup my computer before installing. ie. run maint. scripts, repair permissions, and run diskwarrior.
Steve Palm
February 13th, 2008 at 8:42 pm
I’ve had this problem before, and after doing a flush of the Cache directories all was well.
Use a utility to do it, or do it manually. I do it while booted into single-user mode myself.
/System/Library/Caches
/Library/Caches
/Users/{yourusername}/Library/Caches
Hope it helps.
John
February 14th, 2008 at 2:16 am
No problems on a 17″ MBP. I’m liking this a lot.
scotts13
February 14th, 2008 at 8:06 am
No problems at all on a Dual 2.5 GHz G5. The secrets seem to be that Leopard doesn’t like G4’s much (I tried) and that a lot of software breaks. As long as you accept you’re going to go through all your stuff looking for conflicts, you’ll be OK.
Oh, and I don’t like the taste of crow. Now that I can turn off the menubar transparency, I haven’t. I’ve gotten used to it.
Alimbocl
February 14th, 2008 at 9:55 am
Journler no longer works for me. Load it up off dock, prompts for my password, enter it and the whole system hangs. Able to move the cursor but can’t do anything else. No issues prior to moving to 10.5.2.
Scott Paterson
February 14th, 2008 at 5:58 pm
No problems here either, upgraded a G4 Mini, 2 Intel iMacs and a MacBook. All working fine !
Camilo Montenegro
February 14th, 2008 at 10:35 pm
I’m glad (yet sorry) I’m not the only one having serious problems with 10.5.2. Everything was running fine until tonight. I installed the updates on my MBP and suddenly my MAC is a slug. Start up is much slower, apps are too, beach ball appears for everything and shutting down is what really freaked me out: It wouldn’t. It just froze on my desktop image.
jansons
February 15th, 2008 at 12:06 am
won’t wake up after sleep mode.. hard restart.
JohnT
February 17th, 2008 at 9:25 am
I regret also. My internal microphone no longer works properly. This coincided with the 10.5.2. upgrade. Looks like we are still beta testing.
SteveW
February 18th, 2008 at 9:05 pm
10.5.2 broke mail.app on @ least 5 Macs that I know of: 2 G5 iMacs @ home, 1 Mac Pro @ work and 2 intel iMacs that a co-worker upgraded. Now none can send mail via smtp.
Benny
February 20th, 2008 at 1:00 am
I’m having wicked problems. My MacBook has hard crashed five times since upgrading, each time when I put a DVD in the drive. I initially installed with Software Update and then I tried again with the downloaded update. Still having crashes. Indeed, my Mac has crashed more in the past three days of 10.5.2 than it did in 2007.
I tried cleaning out the cache. Who knows? Maybe that will help…
But if you ask me, 10.5.2 blows.
Woody
February 21st, 2008 at 8:39 am
Awful. I supidly upgrade 3 machines at the same time and all three now have no Mail.app (won’t complete checking notes/to do for IMAP accounts), Safari won’t connect to SSL pages and copying files with one or more wifi legs is hideously slow. I’m back to using Firefox and Thunderbird whilst praying for an update to the update ASAP!
Abe
February 21st, 2008 at 9:46 am
I have 10.5 running on two computers. Dual 1Ghz G4 MDD, and PowerBook 12″ 1Ghz. I Update whenever updates are offered. I regret the update on my PowerBook. PowerBook wont wake from sleep. It just sort of hangs forever. I waited 15mins at one point and still nothing. So I had to hard reset. Im leaping back to 10.5.1 through TimeMachine (Apple was wise to implement this feature as these updates tend to provide relief for some bugs but just create new ones). Im sort of disappointed in Apple because Tiger was pretty solid. What happened.
The PowerMac is performing like a champ. I replaced my OEM Baricuda hard drive and its actually fast as it was in 2004 or around that time when I got it. Everything seems smooth.
What I don’t get is why my PowerMac which has PCI cards and a modded PC version ATI 9800Pro is running great. However my everything OEM including memory PowerBook is having problems.
indra
February 21st, 2008 at 10:57 am
Yes I do regret this update. My 1.33 iBook now won’t even start. It just stuck at the gray apple screen and nothing happens. Waited for more than 30 minutes but still nothing happens. Hard reset doesn’t help either. Anyone have a clue?
Robert Ellison
February 23rd, 2008 at 10:57 pm
I also have the recording problem, but this time using Digital Performer and a CEntrance MicPort Pro USB-connected microphone. All recordings are completely unusable, peppered with a fast tick.
In addition, within a few seconds of even simple 2-track playback, everything hiccups and I get an error saying that audio playback has overloaded the processor, which leaves me completely crippled - the machine I bought for music recording is now a heat-creating paperweight…
I wonder whether Apple gave certain processes priority on one or more CPUs, to make the interface feel snappier, with the cost falling on other programs that need to be real-time…?
Bob
Arninetyes
February 25th, 2008 at 9:38 am
Installed 10.5.2 and graphics update on a G4 Powerbook. Mistake. Now the DVD player crashes the system, and colors and images look horrible on my Samsung 22-inch widescreen flat panel monitor - dull, off-color, and not very sharp. Prior to the update, DVD player worked great, and the Samsung looked brighter and clearer than my PB screen.
I’m so happy.
Andrew
February 28th, 2008 at 11:43 am
I’ve been regretting. Here’s some clues:
http://macosx.com/forums/mac-os-x-system-mac-software/298419-10-5-2-mail-won-t-load.html
Also, there’s a problem with DivX - run this in terminal (if you can):
sudo mv /Library/Application Support/DivX /Library/Application Support/DivX.prev
Good luck. This has cost me two days of work…
Santiago (Jacques) Lema
March 2nd, 2008 at 8:45 am
This has fixed the slow WIFi problems for me:
http://systemsboy.blogspot.com/2006/02/delayed-ack-startup-item-for-intel.html
Just run the terminal command and if it fixes it he provides a startup script (that runs the same command).
Matt
March 4th, 2008 at 7:56 am
I’ve had the freezing problems as well. Only my was probably worse than yours. My computer froze while the Time Machine was backing up on to my 500 GB hard drive, a My Book studio edition. I had to do a hard restart and it killed the My Book. It freezes whenever it connects to the computer and my computer won’t recognize that it’s connected. I’m not happy. I lost over 100 GBs of data.
fd
March 16th, 2008 at 6:29 pm
My DP G5 2.5 will not go to sleep according to the set energy saver preferences. Was fine initially under Leopard.
Have unplugged everything. Quit all apps. Reset everything according to troubleshooting instructions. No go.
Monitor is turned off, but system remains on, fans humming etc.
Louis
March 20th, 2008 at 1:31 pm
I think it is a problem with the software… will try and see if its the RAM…My new intel duo core is crashing too…But am using 3rd poddy ram. Will see what happens when the original is put back in… Remember when installing 3rd party hardware that was not compatible the mac would crash when the software being installed was not compatible with the hardware….
Not just when gaming but when using final cut express or working in many windows…If I work in sound track and then do something in final cut a gray shade will fall down from the top of the screen telling me to restart the machine in Chinese Greek, Spanish etc.
Here is a cheat code for apple:
Ctrl+Alt+~ give_bettergraphics card
Got my machine 3 weeks ago…Maybe we got the lemon batch instead of the apples