Comments on: Random Thoughts: So is Apple behind Blu-Ray or not? http://www.applegazette.com/other/random-thoughts-so-is-apple-behind-blu-ray-or-not/ Apple Gazette - An Apple Blog Fri, 19 Mar 2010 23:36:45 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Michael http://www.applegazette.com/other/random-thoughts-so-is-apple-behind-blu-ray-or-not/comment-page-1/#comment-26432 Michael Wed, 29 Aug 2007 21:23:16 +0000 http://www.applegazette.com/other/random-thoughts-so-is-apple-behind-blu-ray-or-not/#comment-26432 @Archangel I'm not sure if you're deliberately being condescending by saying "magical HD DVD" like they don't exist or never will...but it's coming off that way (to me, at least). Regardless - those "magical hd-dvd players" are here... <a href="http://forevergeek.com/gadgets/sub-200_hd-dvd_players_are_here_venturer_shd7000.php" rel="nofollow">Sub-$200 HD-DVD Players are here: Venturer SHD7000</a> @Archangel

I’m not sure if you’re deliberately being condescending by saying “magical HD DVD” like they don’t exist or never will…but it’s coming off that way (to me, at least).

Regardless – those “magical hd-dvd players” are here…

Sub-$200 HD-DVD Players are here: Venturer SHD7000

]]> By: Archangel http://www.applegazette.com/other/random-thoughts-so-is-apple-behind-blu-ray-or-not/comment-page-1/#comment-26397 Archangel Wed, 29 Aug 2007 14:12:31 +0000 http://www.applegazette.com/other/random-thoughts-so-is-apple-behind-blu-ray-or-not/#comment-26397 From current research, Bluray manufacturing only adds five to 10 cents per disk. Not much, I would say. As for Wal-Mart and the magical sub-$200 players, well....we've been waiting on theses cheap players for awhile now. And it's humorous watching the goal posts move. It used to be the $500 pricing that was going to win it for HD DVD. And then the $300 pricing. But certainly the $200 pricing now, right? Maybe. Maybe. I think movies will ultimately decide the winner -- not cheap players alone. And of the top 10 grossing films of this year, Bluray will have 7 of them while HD DVD will have 5. A small difference, but a difference nonetheless. As for hybrid disks, it looks like studios are doing all they can to back away from that format -- it makes the disks more expensive and they apparently aren't selling well because of it. As for Bluray's advantages, I agree, "superior scratch resistance" is none too exciting and HD DVD doesn't require it, for the most part. That and most reviewers agree that the audio and visual quality of HD DVD and Bluray movies are pretty equal -- in most cases, they are using the same codecs. Still, way too early to decide a winner -- but I think that when (and if) Wal-Mart does get these magical $200 HD DVD players, the bluray players will drop down in price as well -- sub $300 I imagine. And so long as the studio support stays at it is, Bluray will have a comfy lead in popular titles. Finally, the porn affect is well overblown in this internet age. From current research, Bluray manufacturing only adds five to 10 cents per disk. Not much, I would say.

As for Wal-Mart and the magical sub-$200 players, well….we’ve been waiting on theses cheap players for awhile now. And it’s humorous watching the goal posts move. It used to be the $500 pricing that was going to win it for HD DVD. And then the $300 pricing. But certainly the $200 pricing now, right? Maybe. Maybe.

I think movies will ultimately decide the winner — not cheap players alone. And of the top 10 grossing films of this year, Bluray will have 7 of them while HD DVD will have 5. A small difference, but a difference nonetheless.

As for hybrid disks, it looks like studios are doing all they can to back away from that format — it makes the disks more expensive and they apparently aren’t selling well because of it.

As for Bluray’s advantages, I agree, “superior scratch resistance” is none too exciting and HD DVD doesn’t require it, for the most part. That and most reviewers agree that the audio and visual quality of HD DVD and Bluray movies are pretty equal — in most cases, they are using the same codecs.

Still, way too early to decide a winner — but I think that when (and if) Wal-Mart does get these magical $200 HD DVD players, the bluray players will drop down in price as well — sub $300 I imagine. And so long as the studio support stays at it is, Bluray will have a comfy lead in popular titles. Finally, the porn affect is well overblown in this internet age.

]]> By: Snafu http://www.applegazette.com/other/random-thoughts-so-is-apple-behind-blu-ray-or-not/comment-page-1/#comment-26390 Snafu Wed, 29 Aug 2007 12:13:45 +0000 http://www.applegazette.com/other/random-thoughts-so-is-apple-behind-blu-ray-or-not/#comment-26390 Blu-Ray has "superior scratch resistance" because it needs that far more than HD-DVD: the format's physical tolerances are more critical. Actually, the only thing it has over HD-DVD is size, and manufacturing price. Blu-Ray has “superior scratch resistance” because it needs that far more than HD-DVD: the format’s physical tolerances are more critical. Actually, the only thing it has over HD-DVD is size, and manufacturing price.

]]> By: Gary http://www.applegazette.com/other/random-thoughts-so-is-apple-behind-blu-ray-or-not/comment-page-1/#comment-26388 Gary Wed, 29 Aug 2007 12:04:09 +0000 http://www.applegazette.com/other/random-thoughts-so-is-apple-behind-blu-ray-or-not/#comment-26388 Another quick thought. Maybe Apple is supporting neither format. I believe Apple is pushing movie downloads. They probably hope both formats fail so people just start downloading all their movies. I think already a lot of tech savy people are getting the majority of their movies from the internet rather than from blockbuster. Another quick thought.

Maybe Apple is supporting neither format. I believe Apple is pushing movie downloads. They probably hope both formats fail so people just start downloading all their movies.

I think already a lot of tech savy people are getting the majority of their movies from the internet rather than from blockbuster.

]]> By: Gary http://www.applegazette.com/other/random-thoughts-so-is-apple-behind-blu-ray-or-not/comment-page-1/#comment-26384 Gary Wed, 29 Aug 2007 11:44:01 +0000 http://www.applegazette.com/other/random-thoughts-so-is-apple-behind-blu-ray-or-not/#comment-26384 I think it's called slow upgrades. Hardware companies love to sell more products. So slowly upgrading is their way of making lots of money with less R&D. so in the short term they will support HD DVD, then in two years you will see more of a push for Blu-Ray. This means neither side will have to bring their costs down for two years longer and most consumers will buy both. There already are a few highly priced players which play both. The companies are thinking "great we don't have to come out with a dual layer version for another four years". Heck, If they add some bonus material, I might even buy my favorite movie in both versions, and I already own it on VHS and DVD. Wow! I'll have 4 copies of the same movie. What a great deal. I think it’s called slow upgrades. Hardware companies love to sell more products. So slowly upgrading is their way of making lots of money with less R&D. so in the short term they will support HD DVD, then in two years you will see more of a push for Blu-Ray.

This means neither side will have to bring their costs down for two years longer and most consumers will buy both. There already are a few highly priced players which play both.

The companies are thinking “great we don’t have to come out with a dual layer version for another four years”.

Heck, If they add some bonus material, I might even buy my favorite movie in both versions, and I already own it on VHS and DVD. Wow! I’ll have 4 copies of the same movie. What a great deal.

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