Comments on: MOAB Loses all Credibility on Day Two http://www.applegazette.com/moab/moab-loses-all-credibility-on-day-two/ Apple Gazette - An Apple Blog Fri, 19 Mar 2010 23:36:45 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: rom http://www.applegazette.com/moab/moab-loses-all-credibility-on-day-two/comment-page-1/#comment-2882 rom Fri, 05 Jan 2007 00:38:58 +0000 http://www.applegazette.com/moab/moab-loses-all-credibility-on-day-two/#comment-2882 can we all get along here? okay maybe not. it is still sad to read all the comments here. people are nitpicking each others opinion. its an opinion not a fact. but as long as it gets attention on both end of the "issue" then lets get pwned. can we all get along here?

okay maybe not. it is still sad to read all the comments here. people are nitpicking each others opinion. its an opinion not a fact. but as long as it gets attention on both end of the “issue” then lets get pwned.

]]> By: Arjun Muralidharan http://www.applegazette.com/moab/moab-loses-all-credibility-on-day-two/comment-page-1/#comment-2880 Arjun Muralidharan Thu, 04 Jan 2007 23:11:48 +0000 http://www.applegazette.com/moab/moab-loses-all-credibility-on-day-two/#comment-2880 Sorry Michael, My Spam Karma was weirdly strict today... purged all of my comments I got... will get back to you. Sorry Michael, My Spam Karma was weirdly strict today… purged all of my comments I got… will get back to you.

]]> By: Zade http://www.applegazette.com/moab/moab-loses-all-credibility-on-day-two/comment-page-1/#comment-2869 Zade Thu, 04 Jan 2007 20:33:54 +0000 http://www.applegazette.com/moab/moab-loses-all-credibility-on-day-two/#comment-2869 Is it ran on an apple os/hardware setup? yes Is it a bug? yes I fail to see how this is even worth getting upset about. Pretty much every exploit out there is accessed via a piece of vulnerable software. The OS *by itself* is nearly impervious across the board. Linux and Windows included. The main point in OS security is : Can the OS detect this kind of attack and block it from functioning? This particular example is done via putting in string data into program text sections. It's something that the no-execute bit was supposed to prevent. Someone should look into how the OS is handling this 'data as code' issue and improve the support for no-ex. (This applies to all OS's that are affected by this exploit). -zade Is it ran on an apple os/hardware setup? yes
Is it a bug? yes

I fail to see how this is even worth getting upset about.

Pretty much every exploit out there is accessed via a piece of vulnerable software.

The OS *by itself* is nearly impervious across the board. Linux and Windows included.

The main point in OS security is : Can the OS detect this kind of attack and block it from functioning?

This particular example is done via putting in string data into program text sections. It’s something that the no-execute bit was supposed to prevent. Someone should look into how the OS is handling this ‘data as code’ issue and improve the support for no-ex. (This applies to all OS’s that are affected by this exploit).

-zade

]]> By: Michael http://www.applegazette.com/moab/moab-loses-all-credibility-on-day-two/comment-page-1/#comment-2866 Michael Thu, 04 Jan 2007 19:20:24 +0000 http://www.applegazette.com/moab/moab-loses-all-credibility-on-day-two/#comment-2866 @ Moto I disagree, sir. You can call it a VLC bug that affects OS X, Windows, and Linux. If you went by your logic you could even say it's an OS X bug, which STILL doesn't make it an Apple bug. Apple didn't make the software so it isn't an Apple bug. Microsoft didn't make the software so it isn't a Microsoft bug either...etc...etc... @ Moto

I disagree, sir. You can call it a VLC bug that affects OS X, Windows, and Linux. If you went by your logic you could even say it’s an OS X bug, which STILL doesn’t make it an Apple bug.

Apple didn’t make the software so it isn’t an Apple bug. Microsoft didn’t make the software so it isn’t a Microsoft bug either…etc…etc…

]]> By: MotoRAZR Maxx v6 http://www.applegazette.com/moab/moab-loses-all-credibility-on-day-two/comment-page-1/#comment-2865 MotoRAZR Maxx v6 Thu, 04 Jan 2007 19:11:32 +0000 http://www.applegazette.com/moab/moab-loses-all-credibility-on-day-two/#comment-2865 Sounds like Michael can be described affectionately as a 'fanboi'. Face reality Michael, it's an exploit that works on a Mac, therefore it definitely qualifies as an Apple bug. You can also call it a Linux bug, a Windows bug, or whatever operating system is affected bug, nevertheless you can't deny it's an Apple bug just because it exists on other platforms. By your logic we should exclude yesterday's bug too since it affects other platforms. Sounds like Michael can be described affectionately as a ‘fanboi’. Face reality Michael, it’s an exploit that works on a Mac, therefore it definitely qualifies as an Apple bug. You can also call it a Linux bug, a Windows bug, or whatever operating system is affected bug, nevertheless you can’t deny it’s an Apple bug just because it exists on other platforms.

By your logic we should exclude yesterday’s bug too since it affects other platforms.

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