Comments on: 10,000 iPhones sold in Germany on Launch Day – “failure”, my foot! http://www.applegazette.com/iphone/10000-iphones-sold-in-germany-on-launch-day-failure-my-foot/ Your Ultimate Guide to Thinking Differently Thu, 09 Feb 2012 05:10:17 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Partners in Grime http://www.applegazette.com/iphone/10000-iphones-sold-in-germany-on-launch-day-failure-my-foot/comment-page-1/#comment-39923 Partners in Grime Sun, 11 Nov 2007 18:35:24 +0000 http://www.applegazette.com/iphone/10000-iphones-sold-in-germany-on-launch-day-failure-my-foot/#comment-39923 Yikes, that's expensive. Amazing the iPhone sold that many! :) Yikes, that’s expensive. Amazing the iPhone sold that many! :)

]]> By: pp http://www.applegazette.com/iphone/10000-iphones-sold-in-germany-on-launch-day-failure-my-foot/comment-page-1/#comment-39861 pp Sun, 11 Nov 2007 13:45:54 +0000 http://www.applegazette.com/iphone/10000-iphones-sold-in-germany-on-launch-day-failure-my-foot/#comment-39861 **you guys actually have to pay when someone calls you or sends you a message?? ** Yes, in USA. Isn't it crazy? I don't know of any other country in the world doing such a stupid thing. You are being screwed there, you should complain because it is NOT normal. BTW, don't expect queues of people camping for 3 days before the launch of a device in anywhere like in USA. That is not normal behaviour. **you guys actually have to pay when someone calls you or sends you a message?? **

Yes, in USA. Isn’t it crazy? I don’t know of any other country in the world doing such a stupid thing. You are being screwed there, you should complain because it is NOT normal.

BTW, don’t expect queues of people camping for 3 days before the launch of a device in anywhere like in USA. That is not normal behaviour.

]]> By: mitchell Magouirk http://www.applegazette.com/iphone/10000-iphones-sold-in-germany-on-launch-day-failure-my-foot/comment-page-1/#comment-39718 mitchell Magouirk Sat, 10 Nov 2007 21:47:13 +0000 http://www.applegazette.com/iphone/10000-iphones-sold-in-germany-on-launch-day-failure-my-foot/#comment-39718 those are tmobile numbers so far.does not in clude apple numbers and is not for the whole weekend total sales as in 270,000 units in 30 hours for us launch those are tmobile numbers so far.does not in clude apple numbers and is not for the whole weekend total sales as in 270,000 units in 30 hours for us launch

]]> By: Phil http://www.applegazette.com/iphone/10000-iphones-sold-in-germany-on-launch-day-failure-my-foot/comment-page-1/#comment-39654 Phil Sat, 10 Nov 2007 16:24:37 +0000 http://www.applegazette.com/iphone/10000-iphones-sold-in-germany-on-launch-day-failure-my-foot/#comment-39654 you guys actually have to pay when someone calls you or sends you a message?? i never knew that... that's tough. you guys actually have to pay when someone calls you or sends you a message?? i never knew that… that’s tough.

]]> By: obi http://www.applegazette.com/iphone/10000-iphones-sold-in-germany-on-launch-day-failure-my-foot/comment-page-1/#comment-39635 obi Sat, 10 Nov 2007 12:47:25 +0000 http://www.applegazette.com/iphone/10000-iphones-sold-in-germany-on-launch-day-failure-my-foot/#comment-39635 I have doubts that the iPhone will be a big success in Germany, due to its TCO. I tried to compare the cheapest Germany plan to the cheapest ATT plan, so you can judge yourself if you would get it : Contract costs for 2 years including phone, activation and monthly fee: $2336 (including taxes) as opposed to $1875 in the US (without taxes?) What do you get for it in Germany: Voice: - 100 minutes as opposed to 450 in the US (in Germany you dont have to pay for incoming calls, so this is more like 200 min vs. 450 min) - No Night and weekend minutes at all - No rollover (unused minutes expire at the end of the month) - If you exceed the 100 minutes, you pay $0,57 for each extra minute as opposed to $0,45 in the US (If I got that right) SMS: - 40 SMS are included here. As opposed to 200 at ATT (again you dont pay for incoming SMS so this is more like 80 vs. 200) - Each extra SMS will cost you $0,28 (I could not figure out costs for extra SMS at ATT) Data: - In germany you get 200MB at EDGE speed. After exceeding that, they throttle the speed to 64Kb/s for the rest of the month - Hotpot usage and visual VM should be the same as in the US In addition there is no option for existing T-Mobile customers to keep their current plans and just add the Data feature, as is possible for ATT customers for $20 (if I got that right). Would you go for that ? I have doubts that the iPhone will be a big success in Germany,
due to its TCO. I tried to compare the cheapest Germany plan to
the cheapest ATT plan, so you can judge yourself if you would get it :

Contract costs for 2 years including phone, activation and monthly fee:
$2336 (including taxes) as opposed to $1875 in the US (without taxes?)

What do you get for it in Germany:

Voice:
- 100 minutes as opposed to 450 in the US (in Germany you dont have
to pay for incoming calls, so this is more like 200 min vs. 450 min)
- No Night and weekend minutes at all
- No rollover (unused minutes expire at the end of the month)
- If you exceed the 100 minutes, you pay $0,57 for each extra minute
as opposed to $0,45 in the US (If I got that right)

SMS:
- 40 SMS are included here. As opposed to 200 at ATT (again you dont
pay for incoming SMS so this is more like 80 vs. 200)
- Each extra SMS will cost you $0,28 (I could not figure out costs for
extra SMS at ATT)

Data:
- In germany you get 200MB at EDGE speed. After exceeding that, they
throttle the speed to 64Kb/s for the rest of the month
- Hotpot usage and visual VM should be the same as in the US

In addition there is no option for existing T-Mobile customers to keep
their current plans and just add the Data feature, as is possible for ATT
customers for $20 (if I got that right).

Would you go for that ?

]]> By: Phil http://www.applegazette.com/iphone/10000-iphones-sold-in-germany-on-launch-day-failure-my-foot/comment-page-1/#comment-39542 Phil Sat, 10 Nov 2007 01:09:21 +0000 http://www.applegazette.com/iphone/10000-iphones-sold-in-germany-on-launch-day-failure-my-foot/#comment-39542 <strike>iphone-per-day ratio</strike> -> iphone-per-resident-ratio iphone-per-day ratio -> iphone-per-resident-ratio

]]> By: Phil http://www.applegazette.com/iphone/10000-iphones-sold-in-germany-on-launch-day-failure-my-foot/comment-page-1/#comment-39540 Phil Sat, 10 Nov 2007 01:01:22 +0000 http://www.applegazette.com/iphone/10000-iphones-sold-in-germany-on-launch-day-failure-my-foot/#comment-39540 according to engadget, apple sold 270.000 units during the first 30 hours in the u.s. - that's roughly 0.0009 (270.000 / 300.000.000) iphones per u.s. resident. compared to that, launch day in germany yielded an iphone-per-day ratio of roughly 0.000117647059 (10.000 / 85.000.000). so, in comparison... that's a lot less. :p i expect the price of the iphone itself and the contract costs to significantly drop in germany come next year. according to engadget, apple sold 270.000 units during the first 30 hours in the u.s. – that’s roughly 0.0009 (270.000 / 300.000.000) iphones per u.s. resident.

compared to that, launch day in germany yielded an iphone-per-day ratio of roughly 0.000117647059 (10.000 / 85.000.000). so, in comparison… that’s a lot less. :p

i expect the price of the iphone itself and the contract costs to significantly drop in germany come next year.

]]> By: FluxusBot http://www.applegazette.com/iphone/10000-iphones-sold-in-germany-on-launch-day-failure-my-foot/comment-page-1/#comment-39538 FluxusBot Sat, 10 Nov 2007 00:36:42 +0000 http://www.applegazette.com/iphone/10000-iphones-sold-in-germany-on-launch-day-failure-my-foot/#comment-39538 Umhh, 10,000 iPhones sold via 700+ TMo shops in Germany, that makes about 14 per shop. Not too impressive for a country with 85 million inhabitants and one of the richest countries in the world IMO. my feeling is it is a disaster. What do you think? Best, FB Umhh,

10,000 iPhones sold via 700+ TMo shops in Germany, that makes about 14 per shop. Not too impressive for a country with 85 million inhabitants and one of the richest countries in the world IMO. my feeling is it is a disaster. What do you think?

Best, FB

]]> By: Phil http://www.applegazette.com/iphone/10000-iphones-sold-in-germany-on-launch-day-failure-my-foot/comment-page-1/#comment-39511 Phil Fri, 09 Nov 2007 21:12:08 +0000 http://www.applegazette.com/iphone/10000-iphones-sold-in-germany-on-launch-day-failure-my-foot/#comment-39511 and how many iphones were sold in the u.s. on launch day? got any numbers on that? and how many iphones were sold in the u.s. on launch day? got any numbers on that?

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