Comments on: SPECULATION: What If the AppleTV became a DVR to spite NBC? http://www.applegazette.com/appletv/speculation-what-if-the-appletv-became-a-dvr-to-spite-nbc/ Your Ultimate Guide to Thinking Differently Thu, 09 Feb 2012 05:10:17 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: What If the AppleTV became a DVR to spite NBC? « Apple News http://www.applegazette.com/appletv/speculation-what-if-the-appletv-became-a-dvr-to-spite-nbc/comment-page-1/#comment-37349 What If the AppleTV became a DVR to spite NBC? « Apple News Tue, 30 Oct 2007 01:22:03 +0000 http://www.applegazette.com/appletv/speculation-what-if-the-appletv-became-a-dvr-to-spite-nbc/#comment-37349 [...] any NBC show at the $4.99 they wanted to charge per episode this fall…right?[…] Thanks to CLIFFosakaJAPAN for providing this nice story on [...] [...] any NBC show at the $4.99 they wanted to charge per episode this fall…right?[…] Thanks to CLIFFosakaJAPAN for providing this nice story on [...]

]]> By: What If the AppleTV became a DVR to spite NBC? « Apple Top News http://www.applegazette.com/appletv/speculation-what-if-the-appletv-became-a-dvr-to-spite-nbc/comment-page-1/#comment-33279 What If the AppleTV became a DVR to spite NBC? « Apple Top News Mon, 08 Oct 2007 15:39:42 +0000 http://www.applegazette.com/appletv/speculation-what-if-the-appletv-became-a-dvr-to-spite-nbc/#comment-33279 [...] read more | digg story [...] [...] read more | digg story [...]

]]> By: Apple Grrl | Apple TV Could Nail The NBC Coffin http://www.applegazette.com/appletv/speculation-what-if-the-appletv-became-a-dvr-to-spite-nbc/comment-page-1/#comment-27415 Apple Grrl | Apple TV Could Nail The NBC Coffin Wed, 05 Sep 2007 16:40:37 +0000 http://www.applegazette.com/appletv/speculation-what-if-the-appletv-became-a-dvr-to-spite-nbc/#comment-27415 [...] echoed exactly what I was thinking when I read about the NBC brouhaha the other day. I thought Apple handled it just right - letting [...] [...] echoed exactly what I was thinking when I read about the NBC brouhaha the other day. I thought Apple handled it just right – letting [...]

]]> By: What if AppleTV became a DVR - Lost Remote TV Blog http://www.applegazette.com/appletv/speculation-what-if-the-appletv-became-a-dvr-to-spite-nbc/comment-page-1/#comment-27409 What if AppleTV became a DVR - Lost Remote TV Blog Wed, 05 Sep 2007 16:06:15 +0000 http://www.applegazette.com/appletv/speculation-what-if-the-appletv-became-a-dvr-to-spite-nbc/#comment-27409 [...] folks at AppleGazette speculate what would happen if AppleTV converted into a DVR that allowed you to transfer recorded shows to [...] [...] folks at AppleGazette speculate what would happen if AppleTV converted into a DVR that allowed you to transfer recorded shows to [...]

]]> By: Emil H http://www.applegazette.com/appletv/speculation-what-if-the-appletv-became-a-dvr-to-spite-nbc/comment-page-1/#comment-27386 Emil H Wed, 05 Sep 2007 13:02:09 +0000 http://www.applegazette.com/appletv/speculation-what-if-the-appletv-became-a-dvr-to-spite-nbc/#comment-27386 I think your impressions of the number of iTunes customers that would jump to bittorrent are somewhat skewed. It does comprise a large percent of Internet traffic, but that doesn't mean everyone has the time or know-how to use it. I think your impressions of the number of iTunes customers that would jump to bittorrent are somewhat skewed. It does comprise a large percent of Internet traffic, but that doesn’t mean everyone has the time or know-how to use it.

]]> By: What If the AppleTV became a DVR to spite NBC « Tech and Amusing Stuff http://www.applegazette.com/appletv/speculation-what-if-the-appletv-became-a-dvr-to-spite-nbc/comment-page-1/#comment-27385 What If the AppleTV became a DVR to spite NBC « Tech and Amusing Stuff Wed, 05 Sep 2007 12:36:44 +0000 http://www.applegazette.com/appletv/speculation-what-if-the-appletv-became-a-dvr-to-spite-nbc/#comment-27385 [...] read more | digg story [...] [...] read more | digg story [...]

]]> By: Adrienne Gilbreath http://www.applegazette.com/appletv/speculation-what-if-the-appletv-became-a-dvr-to-spite-nbc/comment-page-1/#comment-27382 Adrienne Gilbreath Wed, 05 Sep 2007 12:17:50 +0000 http://www.applegazette.com/appletv/speculation-what-if-the-appletv-became-a-dvr-to-spite-nbc/#comment-27382 If they would add a DVR and merge the Apple TV with the Mac Mini, I would be the happiest person on the planet. We're finally buying an HDTV this Christmas, and it would be great if I could use it as my computer/ media center as well. If they would add a DVR and merge the Apple TV with the Mac Mini, I would be the happiest person on the planet. We’re finally buying an HDTV this Christmas, and it would be great if I could use it as my computer/ media center as well.

]]> By: Kevin Lipman http://www.applegazette.com/appletv/speculation-what-if-the-appletv-became-a-dvr-to-spite-nbc/comment-page-1/#comment-27358 Kevin Lipman Wed, 05 Sep 2007 07:54:47 +0000 http://www.applegazette.com/appletv/speculation-what-if-the-appletv-became-a-dvr-to-spite-nbc/#comment-27358 Steve would never go for it. it's so un-apple. he dosen't want crap looking video and commercials on your iPod. he wants complete controll of the resolution...file size...and seemless video that the iTunes Video Store currently offers Steve would never go for it. it’s so un-apple. he dosen’t want crap looking video and commercials on your iPod. he wants complete controll of the resolution…file size…and seemless video that the iTunes Video Store currently offers

]]> By: Brau http://www.applegazette.com/appletv/speculation-what-if-the-appletv-became-a-dvr-to-spite-nbc/comment-page-1/#comment-27340 Brau Wed, 05 Sep 2007 05:47:05 +0000 http://www.applegazette.com/appletv/speculation-what-if-the-appletv-became-a-dvr-to-spite-nbc/#comment-27340 For some strange reason Apple seems to think adding a DVR to the TV would cannibalize their iTunes video sales. I think opposite. I would buy one in a flash if it had a tuner and the ability to play other file formats ... but that might offend the third parties (Elgato & Miglia) who already have some very good products. The only reason I don't buy one now is because it doesn't do the things I want, beyond sending recorded video through iTunes to my TV. They do seem to be going in the right direction, but much too slowly considering the gambles they take elsewhere. For some strange reason Apple seems to think adding a DVR to the TV would cannibalize their iTunes video sales. I think opposite. I would buy one in a flash if it had a tuner and the ability to play other file formats … but that might offend the third parties (Elgato & Miglia) who already have some very good products. The only reason I don’t buy one now is because it doesn’t do the things I want, beyond sending recorded video through iTunes to my TV. They do seem to be going in the right direction, but much too slowly considering the gambles they take elsewhere.

]]> By: rob http://www.applegazette.com/appletv/speculation-what-if-the-appletv-became-a-dvr-to-spite-nbc/comment-page-1/#comment-27335 rob Wed, 05 Sep 2007 05:25:38 +0000 http://www.applegazette.com/appletv/speculation-what-if-the-appletv-became-a-dvr-to-spite-nbc/#comment-27335 I read a interesting article a long time ago, This guy set up a PVR and a web interface to allow him to play stuff his PVR recorded. Eventually a friend wanted to tap in, so he added another tuner card, and ran cable to his neighbors house. After a few years of this he has a PVR that records every channel 24/7 . The trick was to remain legal, so what he did was set himself up as a cable operator. Your fees are based on your viewer ship so he paid dirt small because his viewer base was so small. As the Big Media allow Cable operators to time shift there shows for local broad cast. What apple needs to do is the same thing, make a massive PVR that feeds iTunes, and then treat it like Pay per view. Sell all shows from all markets to all customers. then pay like a cable operator based on number of viewers per channel. I am not a lawyer but the principles seems the same. I read a interesting article a long time ago, This guy set up a PVR and a web interface to allow him to play stuff his PVR recorded.

Eventually a friend wanted to tap in, so he added another tuner card, and ran cable to his neighbors house.

After a few years of this he has a PVR that records every channel 24/7 . The trick was to remain legal, so what he did was set himself up as a cable operator. Your fees are based on your viewer ship so he paid dirt small because his viewer base was so small. As the Big Media allow Cable operators to time shift there shows for local broad cast.

What apple needs to do is the same thing, make a massive PVR that feeds iTunes, and then treat it like Pay per view. Sell all shows from all markets to all customers. then pay like a cable operator based on number of viewers per channel.

I am not a lawyer but the principles seems the same.

]]> By: miles http://www.applegazette.com/appletv/speculation-what-if-the-appletv-became-a-dvr-to-spite-nbc/comment-page-1/#comment-27321 miles Wed, 05 Sep 2007 04:07:34 +0000 http://www.applegazette.com/appletv/speculation-what-if-the-appletv-became-a-dvr-to-spite-nbc/#comment-27321 Here's the wrinkle... when you get the shows via cable, that ain't free! The whole point of switching to an appleTV or something like it is to shake free of that filthy monthly dollarsuck. I would MUCH rather purchase ala cart than suffer the angst of the demonic monthly bill.. eesh. Here’s the wrinkle… when you get the shows via cable, that ain’t free! The whole point of switching to an appleTV or something like it is to shake free of that filthy monthly dollarsuck. I would MUCH rather purchase ala cart than suffer the angst of the demonic monthly bill.. eesh.

]]> By: josh http://www.applegazette.com/appletv/speculation-what-if-the-appletv-became-a-dvr-to-spite-nbc/comment-page-1/#comment-27319 josh Wed, 05 Sep 2007 03:55:28 +0000 http://www.applegazette.com/appletv/speculation-what-if-the-appletv-became-a-dvr-to-spite-nbc/#comment-27319 I could see this happening it most likely will not happen and i do not have cable and do not plan on getting it so i do not care if it happens. Some people posting say it would never happen because apple makes money form sales of tv shows and movies yes they do make a little money but the goal is to sell apple tv's ipods and iphones not to sell movies and tv shows. is and always has been a hardware company they want to sell hardware. i think that making the itv a DVR and works with itunes would be a great idea. I could see this happening it most likely will not happen and i do not have cable and do not plan on getting it so i do not care if it happens.

Some people posting say it would never happen because apple makes money form sales of tv shows and movies yes they do make a little money but the goal is to sell apple tv’s ipods and iphones not to sell movies and tv shows. is and always has been a hardware company they want to sell hardware. i think that making the itv a DVR and works with itunes would be a great idea.

]]> By: Andrew Finneran http://www.applegazette.com/appletv/speculation-what-if-the-appletv-became-a-dvr-to-spite-nbc/comment-page-1/#comment-27316 Andrew Finneran Wed, 05 Sep 2007 03:36:01 +0000 http://www.applegazette.com/appletv/speculation-what-if-the-appletv-became-a-dvr-to-spite-nbc/#comment-27316 I honestly dont understand apple or the itv. I admit to having a vendetta against them due to the ipod mini which was a completely defective product they still made profit on, myself included. however, there is a device available at radioshack for like 60 bucks to put an entire desktop onto a television. Why would i buy the itv for 300 to put only my itunes onto my television. Not to mention the fact apple tries to restrict what is available on itunes because they want to profit by selling their music and movies. I honestly dont understand apple or the itv. I admit to having a vendetta against them due to the ipod mini which was a completely defective product they still made profit on, myself included. however, there is a device available at radioshack for like 60 bucks to put an entire desktop onto a television. Why would i buy the itv for 300 to put only my itunes onto my television. Not to mention the fact apple tries to restrict what is available on itunes because they want to profit by selling their music and movies.

]]> By: DownWithCorporate.com http://www.applegazette.com/appletv/speculation-what-if-the-appletv-became-a-dvr-to-spite-nbc/comment-page-1/#comment-27315 DownWithCorporate.com Wed, 05 Sep 2007 03:28:31 +0000 http://www.applegazette.com/appletv/speculation-what-if-the-appletv-became-a-dvr-to-spite-nbc/#comment-27315 I'd love to see Apple enter the DVR market -- I can just imagine the clean UI design and simple remote. TiVo is great, but a little real competition wouldn't hurt. I’d love to see Apple enter the DVR market — I can just imagine the clean UI design and simple remote. TiVo is great, but a little real competition wouldn’t hurt.

]]> By: tom http://www.applegazette.com/appletv/speculation-what-if-the-appletv-became-a-dvr-to-spite-nbc/comment-page-1/#comment-27313 tom Wed, 05 Sep 2007 03:25:14 +0000 http://www.applegazette.com/appletv/speculation-what-if-the-appletv-became-a-dvr-to-spite-nbc/#comment-27313 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSd-irQ2T1g http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSd-irQ2T1g

]]> By: Luck Kanthatham http://www.applegazette.com/appletv/speculation-what-if-the-appletv-became-a-dvr-to-spite-nbc/comment-page-1/#comment-27301 Luck Kanthatham Wed, 05 Sep 2007 00:23:07 +0000 http://www.applegazette.com/appletv/speculation-what-if-the-appletv-became-a-dvr-to-spite-nbc/#comment-27301 Henlin, yes, it would be great to have tuner manufacturers work with Apple on opening up the USB port. A few months back, Apple was in talks with one of the manufacturers. I don't know what happened to that. By the way, there is a hack for getting eyeTV to work on the Apple TV. Check out http://wiki.awkwardtv.org for this. Henlin, yes, it would be great to have tuner manufacturers work with Apple on opening up the USB port. A few months back, Apple was in talks with one of the manufacturers. I don’t know what happened to that.

By the way, there is a hack for getting eyeTV to work on the Apple TV. Check out http://wiki.awkwardtv.org for this.

]]> By: Henlin http://www.applegazette.com/appletv/speculation-what-if-the-appletv-became-a-dvr-to-spite-nbc/comment-page-1/#comment-27269 Henlin Tue, 04 Sep 2007 19:22:23 +0000 http://www.applegazette.com/appletv/speculation-what-if-the-appletv-became-a-dvr-to-spite-nbc/#comment-27269 @SpinPapi (5): That's exactly what came to my mind when reading Michael's speculation. I think this would be a great way to put pressure on all networks not selling through the iTunes store. Good for Apple, good for us! @Luck (7): Why not get some TV tuner manufacturer ie. Elgato, Miglia, whoever on board and allow them to connect their tuners to the USB port and integrate their software into the Apple TV interface? @SpinPapi (5): That’s exactly what came to my mind when reading Michael’s speculation. I think this would be a great way to put pressure on all networks not selling through the iTunes store. Good for Apple, good for us!

@Luck (7): Why not get some TV tuner manufacturer ie. Elgato, Miglia, whoever on board and allow them to connect their tuners to the USB port and integrate their software into the Apple TV interface?

]]> By: Luck Kanthatham http://www.applegazette.com/appletv/speculation-what-if-the-appletv-became-a-dvr-to-spite-nbc/comment-page-1/#comment-27253 Luck Kanthatham Tue, 04 Sep 2007 17:37:55 +0000 http://www.applegazette.com/appletv/speculation-what-if-the-appletv-became-a-dvr-to-spite-nbc/#comment-27253 Michael, I run two Apple-TV-related sites: http://appletvhacks.net and http://appletvsource.com. I have to admit that the enthusiasm over the Apple TV has died down quite a bit. It would be great if Apple can bring DVR feature to the Apple TV. However, it is currently not possible with the current version of the device since it has absolutely no inputs. Of course, Apple can always come up with a USB extension for this but I doubt if this is in the works. There are many devices out there that attempt to bridge the computer to the living room. I think Apple TV has a BIG potential. The possibilities are endless. The only factor slowing it down (more like stopping it in its tracks) is Apple. Michael, I run two Apple-TV-related sites: http://appletvhacks.net and http://appletvsource.com. I have to admit that the enthusiasm over the Apple TV has died down quite a bit. It would be great if Apple can bring DVR feature to the Apple TV. However, it is currently not possible with the current version of the device since it has absolutely no inputs. Of course, Apple can always come up with a USB extension for this but I doubt if this is in the works.

There are many devices out there that attempt to bridge the computer to the living room. I think Apple TV has a BIG potential. The possibilities are endless. The only factor slowing it down (more like stopping it in its tracks) is Apple.

]]> By: ByrdMan http://www.applegazette.com/appletv/speculation-what-if-the-appletv-became-a-dvr-to-spite-nbc/comment-page-1/#comment-27248 ByrdMan Tue, 04 Sep 2007 16:42:27 +0000 http://www.applegazette.com/appletv/speculation-what-if-the-appletv-became-a-dvr-to-spite-nbc/#comment-27248 In the Q&A session during the post iPhone kickoff someone asked Steve something about the AppleTV and he said something about there being AppleTV news in the not-to-distant future or some such statement (I don't remember his exact words). This would seem to be a good time for some AppleTV news as well as iPod news. I don't buy the DVR stuff, Apple likes to remain in control of the content. Maybe movie rentals or additional content provided (a la YouTube). Maybe more control of iTunes content (purchasing/renting) directly from AppleTV? TBM In the Q&A session during the post iPhone kickoff someone asked Steve something about the AppleTV and he said something about there being AppleTV news in the not-to-distant future or some such statement (I don’t remember his exact words). This would seem to be a good time for some AppleTV news as well as iPod news. I don’t buy the DVR stuff, Apple likes to remain in control of the content. Maybe movie rentals or additional content provided (a la YouTube). Maybe more control of iTunes content (purchasing/renting) directly from AppleTV?

TBM

]]> By: SpinPapi http://www.applegazette.com/appletv/speculation-what-if-the-appletv-became-a-dvr-to-spite-nbc/comment-page-1/#comment-27245 SpinPapi Tue, 04 Sep 2007 16:31:01 +0000 http://www.applegazette.com/appletv/speculation-what-if-the-appletv-became-a-dvr-to-spite-nbc/#comment-27245 How about DVR functionality for AppleTV that *just* records the networks who won't offer their most popular content on iTunes? Take THAT, dumbasses at NBC!!! How about DVR functionality for AppleTV that *just* records the networks who won’t offer their most popular content on iTunes? Take THAT, dumbasses at NBC!!!

]]> By: Ed http://www.applegazette.com/appletv/speculation-what-if-the-appletv-became-a-dvr-to-spite-nbc/comment-page-1/#comment-27241 Ed Tue, 04 Sep 2007 16:00:58 +0000 http://www.applegazette.com/appletv/speculation-what-if-the-appletv-became-a-dvr-to-spite-nbc/#comment-27241 What's kinda ironic is right before the original iPod was released there was high speculation that Apple was about to release a DVR. (The invite read "Come see apple's newest innovation. Hint: it's not a computer.") To respond to Steve (above), when Apple said people want to own their music I believe they're referring to people not wanting to "rent" their music. The whole idea behind a DVR is being to time-shift (or in the case of the iPod, space-shift) content that I already get for free. The US Congress has already declared that it is legal under copyright's "fair-use" right (see the Betamax trials of the 70s or 80s). Will it happen? I'm not sure. While I don't believe Apple makes a bundle on videos it sells, I also don't believe Apple wants to start a war with the content providers. Just my $0.02. What’s kinda ironic is right before the original iPod was released there was high speculation that Apple was about to release a DVR. (The invite read “Come see apple’s newest innovation. Hint: it’s not a computer.”)

To respond to Steve (above), when Apple said people want to own their music I believe they’re referring to people not wanting to “rent” their music.

The whole idea behind a DVR is being to time-shift (or in the case of the iPod, space-shift) content that I already get for free. The US Congress has already declared that it is legal under copyright’s “fair-use” right (see the Betamax trials of the 70s or 80s).

Will it happen? I’m not sure. While I don’t believe Apple makes a bundle on videos it sells, I also don’t believe Apple wants to start a war with the content providers.

Just my $0.02.

]]> By: georg http://www.applegazette.com/appletv/speculation-what-if-the-appletv-became-a-dvr-to-spite-nbc/comment-page-1/#comment-27235 georg Tue, 04 Sep 2007 14:54:35 +0000 http://www.applegazette.com/appletv/speculation-what-if-the-appletv-became-a-dvr-to-spite-nbc/#comment-27235 Would be pretty cool if we would see something like this from Apple in the future. All the other DVRs available just suck. And I'm sure Apple would do a much better job regarding usability. Would be pretty cool if we would see something like this from Apple in the future.

All the other DVRs available just suck. And I’m sure Apple would do a much better job regarding usability.

]]> By: Steve http://www.applegazette.com/appletv/speculation-what-if-the-appletv-became-a-dvr-to-spite-nbc/comment-page-1/#comment-27233 Steve Tue, 04 Sep 2007 14:48:02 +0000 http://www.applegazette.com/appletv/speculation-what-if-the-appletv-became-a-dvr-to-spite-nbc/#comment-27233 I highly doubt this will ever happen. I mean Apple makes money off the shows they sell off iTunes (more than they make off music I would hope) Making the AppleTV into a DVR would cripple iTunes video sales majorly. Besides Job's always says "people like to own their music/videos" so I think its safe to say Apple won't ever make a DVR. However I can see them expanding the iTunes Store into the living room and allowing you to buy movies/shows and eventually a renting service to compete with all the "On Demand" stuff you get with cable boxes. I highly doubt this will ever happen. I mean Apple makes money off the shows they sell off iTunes (more than they make off music I would hope) Making the AppleTV into a DVR would cripple iTunes video sales majorly. Besides Job’s always says “people like to own their music/videos” so I think its safe to say Apple won’t ever make a DVR. However I can see them expanding the iTunes Store into the living room and allowing you to buy movies/shows and eventually a renting service to compete with all the “On Demand” stuff you get with cable boxes.

]]> By: Sara http://www.applegazette.com/appletv/speculation-what-if-the-appletv-became-a-dvr-to-spite-nbc/comment-page-1/#comment-27213 Sara Tue, 04 Sep 2007 12:55:18 +0000 http://www.applegazette.com/appletv/speculation-what-if-the-appletv-became-a-dvr-to-spite-nbc/#comment-27213 You can currently do this with a Tivo so I can't imagine it would be illegal for Apple to do it. (With Tivo you have to buy thier desktop program to convert things but it pops them right into Apple TV friendly format.) You can currently do this with a Tivo so I can’t imagine it would be illegal for Apple to do it. (With Tivo you have to buy thier desktop program to convert things but it pops them right into Apple TV friendly format.)

]]>